Tell ME How Gay Marriage Will Change the World for the Worse?
This article makes several references to Pastors and other Clergy making pitches to their sheep to give as much money as they can to get Proposition 8 passed, presumably so that God won't fly down here and punish someone for allowing it to happen.
I am wondering, isn't it illegal for a church leadership to actively promote a desired course of action on a political campaign or proposition? Doesn't that move their role away from spiritual warden into the role of political advisors to their sheep?
I want to know what is the TRUE ISSUE that they have with allowing loving, caring individuals who are of the same sex get married. I don't want to read their propogandized bullshit that gets the 'jerry springer' set motivated.
I also want them to explain, in detail, how this is the Armegeddon issue of our time? Frankly, if their God was that upset about it, wouldn't he have, at the very least, sent a meteor into the California Supreme Court building to punish them for thinking about others so thoughtfully?
I also want to know why their God isn't a little peeved at the fact that all of these churches are cherry picking the sins they think are important (gay marriage being in vogue this season). What ever happened to Marriage for life? What about premarital sex? What about the sins of coveting, lust and killing your fellow man?
If these folks are so devoted to the Bible, why do we have any women involved in this matter? Why are they in the workplace and not at home tending to the kids like they are supposed to do (just ask the Muslims about that view).
The really irritating part of all this is the fact that these churches have the shortest memories of all. The FACT of the MATTER is that this country was initially colonized by church going, god-fearing 'pilgrims' who came over here to get away from the people who tried to shove their religious points of view down their collective throats. They had to leave their homelands to escape the kind of people who are trying to assign a church value to a constitutional question. What's next-LA Bitch Trials? Will we all be force fed the version of the Bible that these fake Christian organizations are peddling? If we resist, will it be 'water-boarding' to save our souls? Where will it stop?
The answer is: it won't. People, you have nothing to fear from gays getting married. It will not change the price of gas or milk, your husband isn't going to leave you to move in with his lover or start hitting the gay bar (at least not more than he may be already), your taxes aren't going to change and your church will probably still preach hate over love. So what's the problem?
However, if these church groups manage to heard you into follow the group, and they take away this right from gay people, then we are truly in trouble because our country was founded on the iron-clad notion that churches and governments were not to be intermixed, and this was not set up that way just because someone thought it sounded like a neat idea, it was set up that way to protect everyone, including you and your churches.
If Proposition 8 does pass, I want to make it my mission to impose more of your fake morality into law: divorce should be illegal, close down everything on Sunday to honor your god (including Bingo and Casinos-sorry natives), unmarried sex? break out the stones...
Then you may know what the wrath of God is and good you had it, but you couldn't just let it go...
Thanks for your thoughts Bryan
My wife Martha and I have been married for thirty years and I don’t see how gay marriage could have any negative effects on our marriage.
Human rights are human rights. I think our nation’s young people have a different take on Gay equality. The older and more extreme Religious elements, at least in California will not win this one.
I think as an example, my church, the Roman Catholic Church is a little hypocritical as recent events at the Newman center showed. When a fine priest who happens to be gay resigned and admitted that he was gay and came out of the closet, we lost a good Priest who the community of believers respected and loved.
There our hundreds of priests who are in the same circumstances. Perhaps these anti gay folks do deserve that last level of hell. At least there is plenty of room there for them and many others. This is the last acceptable bigotry among some sectors of our society.
We should pay more attention to the suicide rate of gay teenagers and the trauma that has been afflicted on our children in the past. It is unfortunate that the Roman Catholic Church is so active on this issue. I wish they would be this active in the anti war movement. But, the Church finds itself on the opposite side of a major social justice issue.
And it is sad that bigotry trumps the churches better behavior on Civil Rights for Latinos and African Americans in the past. In so many Dioceses in America the church has been taken over by the like of Right wing elements like Opus Dei, the Catholic League and elements of the Nights of Columbus.
I have gay family members who I love and cherish my relationships with them. Many of them are nephews and younger cousins. And quite frankly I am sick and tired of the bigotry that is targeted toward them.
So no on Prop 8. Yes to allowing these family members to have the same options that Martha and I have had for thirty years. Straight people have to speak up to our friends and family members against prop 8. We can’t allow the bigots to frame the issue. It is about the rights of our friends and family members. The scare tactics used by the religious right is at the least just not right.
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